In the WorkWell Podcast by Deloitte, Jen Fisher — Human Sustainability Leader at Deloitte and Editor-at-Large, Human Sustainability at Thrive Global — sits down with inspiring individuals for wide-ranging conversations about how we can develop a way of living and working built on human sustainability, starting with ourselves.

This week, climate psychologist and consultant Renée Lertzman offers advice on alleviating climate anxiety by getting the help we need from our communities, supporting ourselves, and using our skills and talents to cultivate positive change. 

On being kind to yourself when you have anxiety about climate change: 

“Self-compassion is important. Remember to get off your own back with an attitude that whatever you’re feeling is totally okay and normal, knowing that our anxiety about what’s happening in the world makes total sense.”

On the value of support to alleviate  anxiety:

“Make sure that you’re connected to other people who can affirm and reflect your experiences so you know there’s nothing wrong with you. You could consider therapy or joining some sort of group or circle that has resources that will support you. Do whatever makes sense for you to get the support you need.”

On taking meaningful action and giving back:

“It’s not about combating your anxiety with action; it’s problematic to say: ‘Go out and just do something and it’ll make you feel better.’ When you take action, it’s about doing something in service. Think in terms of collective action, in your organization, your community, your neighborhood, your school, your church, whatever that looks like. Every little thing we do is actually meaningful and matters in one way or another.” 

On what we can do to make a difference:

“We’ve been doing things a certain way that has caused profound damage and harm to numerous beings around the planet. Now, given that, we need to ask ourselves: ‘How do we want to respond?’ And in order to do that, I think we need to pause, reflect, take stock, and take ownership. We need to say, ‘Okay, here we are in this moment, how can I leverage my particular gifts, skills, energy, and passion to be in service?’”

To hear more from Jen and Renée, listen to this full episode of WorkWell here, available wherever you get your podcasts. Visit the WorkWell library for the full collection of episodes.


  • Jen Fisher

    Human Sustainability Leader at Deloitte and Editor-at-Large, Human Sustainability at Thrive Global

    Jen Fisher is a leading voice on the intersection of work, well-being, and purpose. Her mission is to help leaders move from the legacy mindset that well-being is solely the responsibility of the individual to the forward-thinking idea of human sustainability, which supports the long-term, collective well-being of individuals, organizations, climate, and society.  

    She’s the co-author of the bestselling, award-winning book, Work Better Together: How to Cultivate Strong Relationships to Maximize Well-Being and Boost Bottom Lines, the Human Sustainability Editor-at-Large for Thrive Global, and the host of the WorkWell podcast series.

    As the first chief well-being officer of a professional services organization, Jen built and led the creation and execution of a pioneering holistic and inclusive well-being strategy that has received recognition from leading business media brands and associations.

    Jen is a frequent writer on issues impacting the workplace today, including the importance of mental health and social connection to workforce resilience, happiness, and productivity. Her work has been featured in CNBC, CNN, Fast Company, Fortune, Inc, Stanford Social Innovation Review, and Harvard Business Review, among others.

    She’s a sought-after speaker and has been featured at events including TEDx, World Happiness Summit, Out & Equal Workplace Summit, Acumen Global Gathering, WorkHuman, The Atlantic Pursuit of Happiness event, and more. She’s also lectured at top universities across the country, including Harvard, Wake Forest, Duke, and George Mason.

    Jen is passionate about sharing her breast cancer and burnout recovery journeys to help others. She’s also a healthy lifestyle enthusiast, self-care champion, exercise fanatic, sleep advocate, and book nerd! Jen lives in Miami with her husband, Albert, and dog, Fiona.

    You can find her on LinkedIn or on Twitter and Instagram @JenFish23. You can also receive her personal insights and reflections by subscribing to her newsletter, "Thoughts on Being Well"