In the WorkWell Podcast, by Deloitte, Jen Fisher — Human Sustainability Leader at Deloitte and Editor-at-Large, Human Sustainability at Thrive Global — sits down with inspiring individuals for wide-ranging conversations about how we can develop a way of living and working built on human sustainability, starting with ourselves.

This week, Stephanie Harrison, founder of The New Happy and author of New Happy: Getting Happiness Right in a World That’s Got It Wrong, discusses her science-backed approach to happiness and explains how accessing our unique gifts and giving back to our community leads to joy and fulfillment.

On the causes of unhappiness:

“I came to believe through the course of my research that three core lies are making us unhappy. The first is the belief that you’re not good enough as you are, that there’s something wrong with you. The second is that you have to achieve — you always have to do more and more to be happy. And then the third belief is that you have to do everything by yourself and you’re not allowed to rely upon other people. In order for us to be happy, we actually have to start unwinding these beliefs so that we can move forward in a better way.”

On the essence of her approach to happiness:

“I define my ‘New Happy’ philosophy as being yourself and giving of yourself to help other people. The first step is about discovering your unique gifts and talents, things that light you up. Then start sharing them right away with other people. I think we should always be focused on the question: What can we do to help other people and positively impact our corner of the world? What I’ve discovered from my research is that the greatest win-win is when we can make ourselves happy and make other people happy at the same time.”

On the need for connection: 

“I wanted to figure out the common message that has persisted across different cultures, and across different times in history about what we need to do in order to be happy. And I found the same thing over and over again: there’s a need to be part of a community, experience a sense of belonging — and contribute to your community.”

On how to be happy at work: 

“Take an audit of the things that bring you joy at work, and your unique gifts. Just take a minute to write those down. Then ask for feedback from your team and managers. Ask them, what is it that I’m good at? Because often we tend to be almost blind to our own strengths. Then ask yourself, how can I do one of these things today? How can I use one of my gifts in some way in the work I’m doing or with my team? You don’t need to change your life. You just need to start prioritizing some of these activities that bring you joy.”

To hear more from Jen and Stephanie, listen to this full episode of WorkWell here, available wherever you get your podcasts. Visit the WorkWell library for the full collection of episodes.


  • Jen Fisher

    Human Sustainability Leader at Deloitte and Editor-at-Large, Human Sustainability at Thrive Global

    Jen Fisher is a leading voice on the intersection of work, well-being, and purpose. Her mission is to help leaders move from the legacy mindset that well-being is solely the responsibility of the individual to the forward-thinking idea of human sustainability, which supports the long-term, collective well-being of individuals, organizations, climate, and society.  

    She’s the co-author of the bestselling, award-winning book, Work Better Together: How to Cultivate Strong Relationships to Maximize Well-Being and Boost Bottom Lines, the Human Sustainability Editor-at-Large for Thrive Global, and the host of the WorkWell podcast series.

    As the first chief well-being officer of a professional services organization, Jen built and led the creation and execution of a pioneering holistic and inclusive well-being strategy that has received recognition from leading business media brands and associations.

    Jen is a frequent writer on issues impacting the workplace today, including the importance of mental health and social connection to workforce resilience, happiness, and productivity. Her work has been featured in CNBC, CNN, Fast Company, Fortune, Inc, Stanford Social Innovation Review, and Harvard Business Review, among others.

    She’s a sought-after speaker and has been featured at events including TEDx, World Happiness Summit, Out & Equal Workplace Summit, Acumen Global Gathering, WorkHuman, The Atlantic Pursuit of Happiness event, and more. She’s also lectured at top universities across the country, including Harvard, Wake Forest, Duke, and George Mason.

    Jen is passionate about sharing her breast cancer and burnout recovery journeys to help others. She’s also a healthy lifestyle enthusiast, self-care champion, exercise fanatic, sleep advocate, and book nerd! Jen lives in Miami with her husband, Albert, and dog, Fiona.

    You can find her on LinkedIn or on Twitter and Instagram @JenFish23. You can also receive her personal insights and reflections by subscribing to her newsletter, "Thoughts on Being Well"