“We need to see more deeply inside ourselves and see more widely beyond ourselves instead of focusing on the urgency of the moment.”

Tony Schwartz

I host a weekly radio show on SiriusXM 111, Business Radio Powered by Wharton, called Work and Life. We publish edited versions of my conversations as free podcasts. I invite you to listen to the episode  (embedded below) that is my conversation with Tony Schwartz, the founder and CEO of the Energy Project, which began in 2003. He is a thought leader on sustainable high performance, building more humane workplaces and he has been a frequent contributor to The New York Times. Tony began his career as a journalist and is author of several books, including The Power of Full Engagement: Managing Energy, Not Time (with Jim Loehr) and The Way We’re Working Isn’t Working. He’s also co-author with Donald Trump, of The Art of the Deal. Tony has delivered keynotes and trainings to leaders of companies around the world and The Energy Project has offices in three countries.

We talk about the importance of re-energizing and re-focusing to foster sustainable workplaces that allow employees to be productive. We discuss the role of feelings, one’s inner life, and one’s mood on performance and productivity. Tony talks about four reservoirs of energy — physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual — that need to be nurtured through ritual and practice to develop patterns that become habitual. He emphasize how the workplace can be a place of continual growth on an individual as well as an organizational level.