On the eighth episode of the Thrive Global podcast, Ashton Kutcher said he and his wife, actress Mila Kunis, refrain from publicly sharing photos of their kids, daughter Wyatt, 3, and son Dimitri, 11 months, because they feel that living a public life is a personal choice. They use a private social network to share photos and updates with the kids’ grandparents, Kutcher said.

“I’m Wyatt and Dimitri’s dad,” he said. “That’s my number one gig. Everything else is secondary.”

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